And Now a Word With … MSPB Member Henry Kerner
By Dan Gephart, December 3, 2024
A few days ago, we caught up with Merit Systems Protection Board member — and former Special Counsel — Henry Kerner as he closed in on the six-month mark of his term.
“That’s not a long time, but enough to get my footing,” Kerner said of his time at the Board. “Transitioning from a prosecutor to a judge is a shift in mindset, but it’s one I’ve really enjoyed. Back in California, I had colleagues in the DA’s office who made similar transitions, so I was somewhat familiar with the process. This is a great place to work — collegial, supportive, and focused on doing the right thing every day.”
I asked Kerner about the impact of the incoming administration on the functions of the MSPB.
“The MSPB continues its important work,” he said. “As Board members, we each have defined terms — mine runs through 2030. I’m sure other Board members feel the same way about their terms. Unlike some other agencies that might experience frequent turnover, it’s less common at independent agencies, though it’s always hard to predict the future.”
“Our mission remains steady,” he continued. “The merit principles endure and enforcing them is central to what we do. We’re committed to serving the Federal community and ensuring those principles are upheld.”
DG: First off, congratulations to you, the other members, and the agency for nearly wiping out the inherited inventory. What’s the mood like there now?
HK: It seems like people are pretty happy and relieved to have that burden lifted. There’s definitely a sense that we’ve reached a level of normalcy again. I really have to give credit to Ray Limon, Cathy Harris, my predecessor Tristan Leavitt, and, of course, the career staff. It’s been an all-hands-on-deck effort, so I want to extend my gratitude to everyone involved.
Having a full Board — not just a quorum — is a significant milestone for the MSPB and has been especially meaningful for staff who are new and have never worked under a fully staffed Board. Even during the period without a full Board, parties continued filing petitions for review, with about 500 new ones coming in every year. Now, a fully functioning MSPB can provide stability and predictability, which is beneficial for employees, agencies, and the entire Federal ecosystem.
DG: How has your stint as Special Counsel helped you in your transition to the MSPB?
HK: When I became Special Counsel, I found the office in pretty good shape. While I adjusted some priorities and made a few tweaks, the foundation was solid. Coming into the role, I didn’t have much experience in the Federal employment world. My background was primarily as a prosecutor — 18 years in California before moving to D.C. to work on Capitol Hill. That prosecutorial and congressional investigatory experience turned out to be great training for Special Counsel, but I had to build my knowledge of Federal employment law from scratch.
For instance, as a prosecutor, you develop shorthand for legal concepts — like “211” for robbery under the California penal code. Federal employment law has its own language, like “2302(b)” for prohibited personnel practices, which I had to learn on the job. By the time I transitioned to the MSPB, I had a much stronger grasp of that language and the nuances of Title 5. Having spent six years in this world, handling cases with the MSPB and interacting with other agencies, I was able to bring that experience to my new role, which has been incredibly helpful.
DG: How does your role at MSPB differ from your time at OSC?
HK: The job at OSC was primarily a management role — I was the head of the agency with significant management responsibilities. Here at MSPB, I’m a Board member, not the Chair, so I don’t have as much management responsibility.
DG: You bring a lot of expertise and experience on whistleblowing to the MSPB. What is something about the law or the Federal workplace that you only learned as a Board member?
HK: On the whistleblower side, I’m recused from many cases, given my prior role at OSC. Interestingly, some of the matters that come before the Board are areas where I don’t have much prior experience. For example, retirement cases — like disability retirement, FERS retirement, or law enforcement retirement — weren’t something I dealt with much while at OSC.
It’s been an adjustment. The things I know the most about, I now handle the least, and the things I know the least about, I’m doing the most. That said, with the volume of cases we handle, I’ve started to recognize patterns and develop familiarity with these new areas.
DG: Based on the cases you’ve reviewed, what stands out most when it comes to mistakes by Federal supervisors?
HK: I haven’t been at the Board long enough to make a comment on that, but one area that stands out is nexus cases. In misconduct cases, there must be a connection—or nexus—between the conduct and the employee’s duties or the agency’s mission. When the conduct occurs on duty or at the agency, the nexus is almost presumed. But when the behavior happens off duty, such as in a neighbor dispute or a car accident, the connection becomes less clear.
Sometimes, the behavior might not rise to the level of criminal charges but is still used by managers as a basis for discipline. These cases are complicated because they highlight the fine line supervisors must navigate. As Board members, one challenge we face is being limited to the record before us — we don’t always have the full context or history behind the situation.
Many cases involve long-standing workplace issues, but without a fully developed record, it can appear as though the incident is isolated. It’s crucial to ensure the record reflects the broader history and context. When the record isn’t as complete as it could be, it can make evaluating an adverse action difficult, and in some cases, the agency’s decision might not be fully supported by the available evidence.
DG: What trends are you noticing in new PFRs being filed?
HK: Towards the end of my tenure at OSC, and now occasionally at MSPB, I’ve noticed political viewpoint discrimination cases starting to emerge. It’s not entirely surprising given the current political climate, but it’s something I observed at OSC and see sporadically here as well. While I wouldn’t label it a full-fledged trend yet, these cases have certainly caught my attention, and I wouldn’t be surprised if they become more prevalent over time.
Related training:
- Misconduct Investigations: Get Them Right From the Start, January 22
- Got Nexus? Accountability for Off-duty Conduct, April 3
- MSPB Law Week, April 7-11